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  1. So, could I use the SWG system, but just treat my pool as if it was a chlorine pool? Meaning of the 3 types, salt, chlorine, minerals.....I would just add chlorine and do the same with all other chemicals as if I had a chlorine pool. I will check with my builder and see what he does as far as when he adds salt.
  2. Thanks chem geek for the reply and your time
  3. Hi, I am still trying to decide on my brand new, yet to begun construction, gunite in ground pool on whether to go with salt or chorine for sanitizing. I was leaning towards salt, but maybe I am reading too much. I am hearing great things about maintenance, but I have read the following negatives: 1) It is more corrosive than chlorine and you have to make sure EVERYTHING is non-corrosive and salt "compatible". 2) For new gunite pools, salt will not allow the concrete to cure properly. 3) For waterfalls/decents, you have to make sure the salt won't damage them. 4) The salt gets in the "atmosphere" and corrodes everything. 5) If you don't use muriac acid to lower the PH, you increase the corrosive effects. There are a few other things I read. A piece of me says, go with chlorine as it is "tried and true". The other side of me says, salt is the way to go...and I have a friend who converted and is very happy. I just worry about corrosion of the plaster, stamped concrete deck, equipment and pipe joints. If you have real life experience of over, say, 7 years with a salt system, I'd love to hear from you. If you are in the pool industry, I'd rather you keep your sales pitches and lying to yourself.....you are the folks who made my whole process of getting a new pool a confusing mess. Thanks, Doug
  4. Hello everyone, I have two concrete bids in and they are different (and soon, two fiberglass bids). My plan is to create a list of the items listed as included from each builder and talk to both. Some of the language is broad and unspecific. I feel it is this way to "protect" them so they can charge me later. Things like "permit"....what does that mean?....are you paying for it or just applying for it? I also found out today that my township requires topographical drawings and a vinyl install company wants to charge me $900 for this. This is not mentioned in either concrete bid and I will be asking them if this is included. What is the typical nonsense that I am going to face when I sign and construction starts?...What questions do I need to ask now regarding what's included and not included....what are they going to try and "pull" on me later to complete the project?..."Oh, you want water?...that's a $1,000." I want to include these items on my list and ask them if it is included or not. Thanks again, Doug
  5. Yeah, this is nut! This is complicated for sure. I do love complicated things and lots of choices.....but I am stumped. I posted on another forum today also and I got kinda the same feedback. I think I am ruling out a liner pool. Fiberglass or Concrete. I have two concrete bids...one is 33K....the other a few thousand higher. I have two fiberglass bids....one is 30K...the other a few thousand higher. decisions....decisions...decisions.
  6. Hello, In my consideration of installing a new pool, I decided to look into Vinyl Pools. I originally disqualified them, but I saw one last week and talked to a PE and he mentioned he had one and liked it. I guess the thing I like about them is that they are supposed to be less money for a given size, the liner replacement is relatively cheap as compared to resurfacing concrete or re-coating fiberglass, and it seems the cheapest to demolish if I need to for whatever reason (ie: I decide to move and the pool is luring potential buyers away.) I'd love to hear from people who have had vinyl liner pools for many years and give their experience. How is the liner holding up? Are the vinyl tiles fading terribly? Do you have issues with wrinkles? Is your property wet (mine is and I am considered with water getting underneath)? If there is anything else, I'd love to hear it. Thanks, Doug
  7. Ok waterbear....I gotta say that is a nice pool and I like the white with the tile!! I could DEFINITELY live with that. The white pool I saw just was just white up to the cantilever deck and it just was too plain....boring.
  8. Oh, one more thing. I don't think I could live with a white fiberglass pool. I don't like how they look. I saw one last week and wasn't crazy about it AND it had a black film on it....it looked bad...and only three years old.
  9. Thanks waterbear. I didn't know about the "Also, realize that if the company determines the cracking was caused by faulty installation (which is the usual case) then the warranty is void in most cases." That's a concern. If I go with a gunite company who will be in business years down the road and there is a crack, I don't think I'll have this issue. There won't be two parties involved (manufacturer and installer) finger pointing at each other. Now, if I go with fiberglass, I am going to go with a company that specializes in this and has been in years for a long time....and looks to be many years from now. This is one tough decision...would be much easier if it wasn't so expensive.
  10. Hi all, I am new here. I live in eastern Pennsylvania and I am looking into putting in a new pool. I have decided to go with gunite or fiberglass. I've read a lot and I am still undecided mainly because of all the online sales pitches and inability to get the real "truth". If you are a pool installer, please do not respond. I'd really like to hear from people who have fiberglass pools and have had them for at least 7+ years. In talking with a few builders, I did get one piece of advise that I think I can believe. They have told me that Barrier Reef makes the best pools. They feel they are superior in strength and that they are much heavier than the others. So, I am going with Barrier Reef or Riviera (made by Barrier Reef). My only hang up on fiberglass is two things: 1) Lifetime Warrantee - The pool companies state a lifetime warrantee on the structure. I forget who and where, but I was told that this is limited to only 7 years in Pa. If this is true, I doubt I will go fiberglass as a "cracked" fiberglass pool seems like it will have to be ripped out and replaced. 2) Maintenance - The fiberglass pool companies say there is very little maintenance and the pools will look great forever. I just saw a white fiberglass pool that was installed 3 years ago. Honestly, I thought it looked terrible. There was a black film on the sides and it looked bad. This is my fear....I install this beautiful pool and it starts to look horrible. I am realistic. I don't expect the pool to look as good as it did say 15 years after it was installed, but it shouldn't be an eye sore. So, I guess my question is to those people who have had a fiberglass pool for many years. These are the people who are past there "honeymoon" period and have the experience of a real situation. Please tell me, how is your pool holding up and are you still satisfied? Thanks, Doug
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