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OK?OBVIOSLEY,NOT ONE OF YOU PEOPLE HAVE ANY POOL CONSTRUCTION EXPERIANCE? AND FOR THESE OPIONS AND COMMENTS TO BE BROADCASTED FOR THE WORLD TO READ,WHEN THERE SO FRKN WRONG,ITS SAD AND MAKES US POOL CONTRACTORS LOOK BAD. 1ST:U always shoot the shell,then pregrade around it,Then "TILE"PLUMB"ELECTRICAL,AND FORM THE DECK BEFORE you ever pour the concrete deck. 2ND"After the shell is shot,you must find the highest spot on the shell beam,THEN:Figure out your "PITCH"MEANING GRADE-SLOPE-,PITCHEN BACK FROM THE POOL BEAM,AND THIS REQUIERS KNOWEN WHAT YOUR COPING IS GOING TO BE,Whether cantileaver,cap tiles,brick,etc;...And the amount of footage from the pool water line to the outside deck finish or amount of feet between the pool to the lanai?Thats the most crucial part,becuase if your pitched to high,water will flow over your drain between the deck and lanai and can flood to the house doors or the deck pitch can end up to steep and look stupid,or too low,whitch is just as bad,So? STEP 3" After shell is shot,pregrade completed,U use a water level or transite or in my 18 year experiance-my eyeball,and find the high spot of the pool shell.If the layout guys did it right,followen the bluprint,then it should only be within a 1/2 inch to an inch below the grade your looking for. 4th:The grade your looking for is "LEVEL"!!!!!!!! CANT SAY THAT ENOUGH!! BUT YOU WANT LEVEL AND THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF PITCH UPON COMPLETION OF THE TILE JOB.SO? THE FEET OF DECK FROM POOL WATERLINE,FOOTAGE TO LANAI,ETC; ALL PLAY THERE PART IN THIS CRUCIAL PROCESS,AS WELL AS THE COPING YOUR GOING TO USE AND HOW THICK IT WILL BE?(CANTELEAVER-2 N 1/2 IN.//BRICK COPING 3 AND 1/2 INCH/// ETC;.) 5TH:so heres how we tile a inground concrete swimming pool,whether gunite(whitch is crap)Or shotcrete shells. You figure out your grades and pitches and your high spot off the shell,we use 6 inch boards,whitch are and we call "homex"dOWN HERE IN TAMPA FLORIDA.yOU SET YOUR MARK ON THE SHELL AT THE HIGHEST SPOT,AND USEN 6 inch homex or masonite or whatever? If you need to be 1 inch above the beam,them your mark would be 5 inches below the beam,so that when you nail your homex to the marks or chalk lines,that you will be maken all around,the whole inside pool perimator walls,youll have 5inches below the beam to nail to and an inch above the beam to mudd. In short:You find your high spot,you find your grade,you measure down usen the whith of whatever material boards your usen,and after this you have a perfectley level pool beam around your whole pool then you mixup some grey portland cement and either trowel or shovel it out along the beam behind the form board you just nailed up ontop the pool beam."BUT ALL YOU NEED IS A WEDGE OF MUDD FROM THE TOP OF YOUR FORM BOARD GOING DOWN AT AN ANGLE TO THE BEAM",,WHITCH YOU TROWEL OUT AFTER DUMPING THE LITTLE BEAD OF MUDD ON THE BEAM. ONCE THATS DRY,YOU PULL YOUR HOMEX(OR BOARDS)OFF,NOW YOUR POOL IS LEVEL,NOW YOU NEED TO DO A FACE PARGE OF MUD,FROM YOUR TOPLINE DOWN THE POOL WALL 6-10 INCHES,OR MORE,DEPENDING ON YOUR TILE APPLICATION, (FACE PARGE)Means you use stucco concrete and trowelit to the top face of the beam and use a level and make it plumb,scrape,rub,float,whatever.when finished and its setup,give it a lite spongen to smooth it out and seal off any air bubbles still inside the mudd. (I SHOULD SAY THAT THIS IS THE WAY YOU ONLY INSTALL SWIMMING POOL TILE ON AN INGROUND CONCRET POOL,IF YOUR INSTALLING MATT TILE OR 6X6 W/T CANTELEAVER COPING OR BRICK,BUT WITH BRICK YOU POUR THE WHOLE BEAM LEVEL AND FLAT ATLEAST 6INCHES OUT FROM POOL) nOW WITH JUST 6X6 SINGLE BULLNOSE TILES OR 6X6 TILES ON A ROUND POOL DESIGHN,YOU CAN JUST SLAP MUDD ON THE BACKS OF THE TILES AND STICK THEM TO THE WALL AND MOVE THEM IN OR OUT AS NEEDED,After your marks are shot and set. HOPE THIS STRAITENS YOU PEOPLE OUT? BOTTOM LINE IS,NO HOMEOWNER OR ANYONE THAT HAS NO KNOWLAGE OF BUILDING OR TILEN A INGROUND CONCRETE SWIMMING POOL SHOULD NEVER THINK OR TRY TO DO IT THEMSELVES,THERES ALOT OF ELEVATIONS AND PITCHES AND LEVELNESS AND PLUMBNESS AND SO MUCH MORE INVOLVED. THANX,N GOD BLESS!