104 Degrees

All spa brands have problems, no matter how much you pay. Good luck. hot_water As hot-water said! ---good luck---- its 10 degrees out your on your knees at the spa on the phone with a 1-800 number,the person you are talking with is in a warm room your outside? think about it.

By the way, like you I probably couldn't bring myself to return a 2001 spa for a refund. Good luck. hot_water Whats the cost of returning the spa??(moving it)

I want to thank everyone for their replies.... Even though I stated I wanted to hear from people who own this product.... Which I haven't... Anyways, I am now convinced it is just easier to buy him a sauna, no chemicals, no maintence same benefits. I have used one.thats why i dont own one.there ok if you live where its warm.

Wow... I thought it would be nice to spend $1000 on my dad... Guess no one else does... Does he like sitting in a deep puddle

For as it is always said, when you get old they will treat you the same way that you have treated them, Or worse!! they could buy you a spa in a box... I'm going to be nice to my kids from now on

Seattle??? so yes? I'm just looking for something that he could enjoy the hot water and sooth his aches, and use it from time to time... I have mentioned a real hot tub...but he doesn't know how long he is going to live there and would like something he could pick up and take to his girlfriends... I realize this is not a quality hot tub... I have a hot spring myself...And one more question... Does anyone know how noisey these things r? I did not know you lived in seattle?? if you must get him a portable spa, look at round ones with real heaters.this is what i did.there easier to move.

does it get cold where your father lives?

i hate foam in the spa.

Hi Oasis, Funny thing I was just in a store last week called Oasis that sells Hot Springs and Limelight. The insulation from what I understand has changed in Limelight, maybe one dealer didnt know that. What did it change to?

This is a good Question

Look at the Crown xl by nordic.i think its the best spa in its class and price range.there are others as Roger mention that deserve looking at also. Wet test all you can.

i dont like dealing with people who dont call when they say they will.i really dont like it if its done twice.

Thx all.... after researching all we could..... we ordered a cover from RHTubs today. Looking forward to seeing if it looks up to it's reputation on this site. I ordered the 4" to 6" Double wrapped styrofoam, seal down the middle one.it keeps the heat in. i'm looking at sundance fir my next spa,i told my wife that i will get the cover from RHtubs,she said good.its the first time we ever agreed.

get the exstream one like i did.

Roberts hot tubs.that says it all