spalover35

Actually, they were working with a dealer about 40 miles from the location of the show. They carry Master Spas although in the postings I read, one poster did say that the dealer had been taken to court a lot due to the 3 day law where you are allowed to change your mind (if the sale is not made at your principle place of business). I can only assume that the dealer would not refund their money. As far as insulation goes, the R value thing was put in a paper and published in Canada. I could not dispute the factual nature of Icynene isulation. I think the reason it holds the R factor in the field is it also acts as a total air barrier as well. (also, the 100:1 is factual---it really expands and sets in 8 minutes). That being said, the salesman also said that the insulation everyone else uses (polyurethane) loses over 1/2 its insulating value within the first 2 years. I did not confirm that as it sounded just ridiculous. If I had to place a bet, I would now guess that the reason Master Spa is thought of to be poorly insulated is because they (as you said) use very little of it. There is one more thing that I cannot stop thinking about. Having looked at many spas over time, I have never seen or felt that a seat was better designed than what I saw in Master Spa's LSX. It was more than the fact it just fit my body. Everything seemed to be placed correctly. A circus tent atmosphere is not my idea of effective marketing, and I have yet to buy anything at one of those shows, but aside from that (and insulation/performance) the shell itself was very impressive. I wonder if there is something out there I would feel the same way about?

I recently attended a Master Spa show and generally liked what I saw. The dry testing was very impressive as the seats fit very well. The power of the jets seemed good as evidenced by the put hand over the jet test. However, not being familiar with the manufacturer I came to the internet to do some research. The journey led me here. One thing that I noticed is that Master Spa seems to be thought of as a middle of the road company and one serious detraction was the poor insulation and expensive energy use. What puzzles me is the salesman specifically mentioned the oustanding insulation properties of the product. He said that only Master Spas uses Icynene insulation and this product does NOT lose any insulation properties. (After reading up on Icynene, it seems this insulation is the new preferred product in Canada, and the most impressive feature is that the R factor in the lab, transfers to the field almost 100%........ i.e. the theoretical R = Real world R). Well if this is all true, how come people feel the Master Spa is less energy efficient? Since this foam expands 100:1 it surely cannot be due to using so little of it. The Material never loses its r value...so I am confused. I can only guess that maybe the lesser brand Down East is what people are referring to and not the LSX models we were looking at. Can anyone clarify this for me? I did not buy the hottub and didnt like the pressure of this price is only good until Sunday (end of show). Previously we have owned a Dimension 1 Chairman unit and are generally pleased with it, but after sitting in the LSX stuff, I was much more impressed with Master Spa. What am I missing?! Thank you.